I feel the need to write this update because of the amount of interest, ignorance and willful misinformation circulating at the moment regarding ISO 9001:2015, ISO 14001:2015 and ISO 45001 lead auditor training and auditor transition training.
Current status (as at March 2015)
At this current moment in time, none of the above mentioned standards have been issued. Whilst draft documents have been issued for comment, these are NOT the final documents and they may well change following consultation. Consequently training courses purporting to train people on “the new standards” are not training people on the new standards as they have not been published. These courses do not carry approval from IRCA or IEMA, RAB or anybody else. There is nothing illegal about training people on the draft, but as these are unaccredited courses and they work on the assumption that the current drafts will be the same as, or close to, the actual final versions, the principle of buyer beware applies. Capable People will not be offering transition training until we know the content of the actual documents, and that will not be prior to their issue.
Validity of ISO 9001:2008, ISO 14001:2004 and OHSAS 18001:2007
As organisations will likely have a three year transition period FROM THE POINT THE NEW STANDARDS ARE ISSUED, you must bear in mind that many organisations will remain certified to the older standards for some years yet, and auditing to the old standards will not become obsolete any time soon. In fact it will take the certification bodies a short while after the standards are issued to put their auditors in a position where they can credibly audit to the new versions. In short, THERE IS NO RUSH.
What will the transition arrangements be?
This week the IRCA published some information that outlines the likely arrangements for auditor transition. As most companies take their lead from the IRCA on matters like this, it is probably useful to listen to what they have to say;
“To ensure IRCA-approved training organisations can maximise the business opportunities stemming from updates to ISO 9001 and ISO 14001, we’re releasing new course criteria and exams together with the transition training courses. The precise schedule will be dependent on the release of the Final Draft International Standard (FDIS).
The new criteria will follow a modular approach, incorporating both an Annex SL structure and standard-specific changes”
Here is a link to further details, what it means to auditors and potential timelines.
As you can see, the IRCA have confirmed that no specific arrangements can be made until we know the content of the respective FDIS. At the moment we do not.
What should I do next?
Only you can make that decision. Current IRCA/IEMA approved Lead Auditor training remains the most valid option for anyone needing to be trained in the meantime. Employers, generally, do not regard unaccredited training as having the same value as an indicator of training and competence. Keep an eye on the capablepeople.co.uk and this blog for updates. We have a keen interest in getting things right and also in doing the right things. So far as transition training goes, sit tight and wait. There is no rush and (in our opinion) unaccredited training based on a draft standard will not give you any advantage but it could be a waste of money.
I’ll keep you posted as and when more details emerge.